Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it – no matter if I have said it! – except it agree with your own reason and your own common sense.” – Siddhartha Gautama, a.k.a. the Buddha


Fairweather only

And that is NOT acceptable.

What am I talking about?

Of all things, a bloody bow, go figure.

Had everything dialed in yesterday evening, even checked the ‘loaded’ arrows. Nice tight group at 35 yds. Happy happy me.  

This evening, went over to Cuz’s house to shoot a few rounds and some bull session time, everything started good. We even shot a couple through paper, just to check: bullet holes with no tear.  I was a touch high on my ranges, but dead in line.  Simple fix, just adjust the sight a hair lower by range.

Then the temps started to fall.  Was above 60 when I went there, and was above 60 the day before while sighting in. By the time it was 50, I was hitting low and right.  As the temps fell further, that shifted to low (lower) and left.  Both of us looked the bow over and could find nothing out of whack.  Rest is sitting good, everything tight, nothing obvious. I then shot one of the broadheads at his request and damned it that thing didn’t plane all over like a curve ball from a major league pitcher.

Back to the porch and the paper.  Hard tear at a 45ºdown and right.  Not three hours  before was shooting bulletholes.  Quick check again showed nothing.  Set the bow inside on a couch across from the stove and sat outside discussing it.  Half hour later, paper shot again and another bullet hole.

This is not acceptable for a bow I intend on hunting with.

And I have to accept that I got what I paid for, IE, someone else’s problem became mine.

I haven’t made up my mind on the direction I will take on this matter as yet.  But something will be changing.

I have seen something like this before, where slight temp changes induced shifts in form.  It was on a car, and as it warmed up, a perfectly machined head would ‘warp’ just enough to cause coolant leaks.  Drove us nuts until we replaced that head with a factory unit.  I wouldn’t be surprised if this bow had been dropped at some point and stressed the riser and as temps drop, exacerbate the stress.  If that is the case, a new bow would be the frugal rout instead of trying to find a new riser from the dealer. This bow is long long time out of production, and the newer models are all the parallel limb style. (I may just break down and buy that Bear Wild I had my eye on and then attempt to sell this one off. A thought, but I haven’t  decided yet)

More later,,

 grumble mumble cuss cuss cuss, grrrr.


More bow stuf

Managed setting up three groupsbof arrows that work for my set up, one feild point for practice/comp, one for recurve only, and a set of three that are strictly broadhead.

Then I went through the whole re-ranging my slider sight.  Found something interesting while doing so. This setup of now and arrows responds quite similar to a 30-30/7.62×39 ballistically though on a shorter scale.  The first range is further apart than the next two marks, than the next two are the aame width apart, and the last mark is WAY up the scale.  So the 10yd is further from the 20 than the 20 is feom the 30.  30, 40, and 50 are noticeably similar then 60 is way near the top of the scale.  And the mid marks are like lookingat a slide rule: kinda.  The mid mark is closer  to the 10 mark than the 20 on the low end and a whole lot closer to the 60 than the 50 on the high end.  The spread is much tighter in the middle of course. 

The arrow just falls into the target at 60 yds. Very similar to the way a 30-30 seemingly falls out of the sky after 250 yards.  Lots of speed and energy out to that, than ‘Woof! Tha’s enough o’that.’ The AK round is nearly identical in ballistic reaction to the 30-30.

I guess my preference for real honest to God feathers over vanes has a little to do with that. Maybe tomorrow I will throw some of the vaned arrows down range, just to see if I am right.  I still have a half dozen I never fletched up (hell, I ain’t ever shot ’em at all) so I have more playing around I can do.

Anyways, I thought it was interesting to see the ballistic picture show up so distinctly on my scale.

P.S.: And yes, I checked the broadheads for matched shooting to the FPs.  They shoot just a hair higher, but dead on track (pun intended) as the FPs.  Granted, the FPs are on 31″ shafts while the BH are on 29″.  Only a little difference in weight, but that means a little faster as well.  

Arrow stuff 

Y’all know I have been shifting around when it comes to throwing sharp pointy things at high speed.  While my finger is better for shooting the recurve, it still hurts enough that I can’t shoot as often as I would like.  My instinct shooting is taking a little bit of a hit due to that, but that isnt the point of this post.  Recurves are a little more forgiving of slop than compound bows are.  They are accurate, don’t get me wrong, and all of the principles I am going to bring up here apply to recurves as well, but may not be as noticeable as with a compound.

First off, you know I hate to spend hard earned money on silly little things I can make myself.  The equivalent below unit lists at Lancaster Archery supply, for between $100 and $300, depending on bells and whistles.
I made it for an hours worth of my time, and zero dinero. Measurement is via a cheap dial micrometer I keep around for quick and dirty work where I don’t need three decimal places.  The wood was scrap from where my dad was building beehives. (A local weed we call coffee tree, and believe me, its a frickin weed, not a tree, though its hard to tell it at a glance.  He cuts ’em and has a local lumber yard cut ’em into useful planks.)

The weight is from my lead supply: I formed the hook from a peice of aluminium strap. Jupiter blend sand as my mold and melted the lead in a plumbers pot right in the coals of my wood stove.  The shiney parts are trimmings to get it to exactly 32 oz. (Its actually shy of such by 4grains, close enough for what I needed. Do you know how much lead makes up 4grains? Not very much at all, considering I was only scraping that weight to bring it inline.)

That other ‘thing’ is for checking FOC or Forward of Center.  It makes ‘take off’ a little more predictable and is different between field points and broadheads.

(Since writing this, I found an even better set up at Poor Folks Bows)

Anywhoos, here is the why of this build.  I have been shooting this Darton for a bit over a month, and there have been times where I was just ready to hang it.  Almost two dozen arrows, and there were only 4 (!) That I knew would shoot true. I dont mix ’em up when I am shooting, but I had been trying to find a batch that I liked.  Alright, step back, re-approach from a more scientific direction.  If you can’t measure it, it isn’t science, its religion.  So I isolated the arrows into groups by make (2) and stated spine. (3. 340, 400, 500) and length (31″ and 29″)  (For the less informed, spine is a measure of how much an arrow can flex, the bigger the number, the ‘weaker’ the spine and therefore more flex.)  I most always shoot 340 @ 31″ for the recurve.  Its too stiff really, but its what I am used to and it allows some flexibility in point choices, (and I like heavy points on the recurve.)  Well, it does for the recurve.  Apparently not for the wheelie bows.   Anyways, the 6 arrow group that seem to shoot best for the Darton were set aside and scrutinized hard.  No odd wear, no odd anything obvious.  Weighed and all came within a grain of 398.  FOC was right at 9-10%.  But they just wont group.

Spine check. These arrows were sold and are specifically tagged at 350 for spine.  Weight matches the listing of 9gr/in, add on the 100gr FP, and 3 4″feather fletch; 398gr fits the window.


First arrow.  Spine measures 510

Second arrow: 470



5th: 470

6th: 320

I wonder why they won’t group?

Yes, 2 and 5 did group.(yes, I number my arrows.  It helps identify problems)  Sometimes by trying to share the same hole.  That was part of what was telling me that it wasn’t my form.(and believe me, I was starting to wonder.)  

Key point of this post.  As fast as the manufacturing process is for carbon arrows, they WILL fluctuate.  Even in the same run.  I would imagine that quality control is to check one in a thousand or so, then grade the entire run based on that measurement. If you are serious about your shooting, this is a key area to start when setting up your match arrows.  Even then, tuning the arrows, tuning the bow, and tuning each to the other as well as to you,  are not steps to avoid.   I have never attempted competition with the recurve and was content with my groups there, sloppy that they were.  It has been ‘good enough’ to put meat on a table.  

That doesn’t cut it for head to head competition, and compounds have so much more speed, they have to be right, right out of the gate or they will do their own thing.  Toss a broadhead on the front of that missle and things get even more bizarre if it ain’t right.

This is stuff I’ve known, but never gave a poop about while playing with my stick bows. That changed today. I am working up a stack of arrows that will work for each bow, no mixing. One group each for target and another for hunting.  I expect my groups with the recurve will improve as well.

Now, if I could find a dealer that would let me measure spine BEFORE I buy,,,,,

Update of my last post.  That deal with the gas engine welder fell through.  Apparently one of the guys I work with went and made a counter offer, clueing the owner that he had something more valuable than he thought.  The price is now way out of my range, and it was a whimsey chance anyway.  Shit happens.  (But my coworker is now on MY shitlist for awhile.  I won’t put him into crap work, but he sure won’t be bumming smokes from me anymore.)


Its been a week plus?!?!

Yeah, I’m slackin’ on the blog, sorry y’all.  

Talkin’ ’round the hollar and on job sites, hunting is far worse than I predicted.  Local game warden swears to 75% die-off of white tails this year.  Locals are saying 50% or so.  

Bad either way.  Not an annihilation, but pretty daggum devastating to the herds.  I figure another 2-3 lean years before they are recovered, so long as we have normal weather and no more blue tongue outbreaks.

Been three weeks since the Vegas debacle. What do we know? Jack.  Shit.  Someone(s) is(are) covering something up; reason(s) unknown. The local PD is playing in tune, the site where it took place is as well, and by this time next year, it will be just another incident with a body count.  Good work Fibbies, ya make Comey proud.  Until further info, reliable info, is available, I am sticking to my “weapons sale to ISIS gone bad” theory.  It answers more questions than it raises, and Occums Razor still works.

Work work work, not complaining mind you, just afraid it could dry up fast as the weather cools.

Oh yeah.  Question for some of my more electrically inclined readers. (RDP, Spud, Snake,,,hint hint) Gasoline powered welder(lincoln 200SL with a 1950’s ford flat head 4 banger), older style, 200A cap.  Is it possible to adapt a MIG welder to it?  I’ve been reasearching and the only thing I am finding is silly bugger games using microwave transformers. (Cool, but not the same thing)

Anywhos, when I find something more interesting’ or fall into some other crazy redneck engineering game😎 I will post more.  Seems things are winding down, (and that makes me a little nervous too. ) and ain’t much to say right now.


Runnin n scrapin

Made a change or two in how things operate, like the lifting lever. Otherwise, same as the Friday.

Took it out for a spin and smmothed some ruts in my dads driveway. Good thing to, as I dropped a bolt on the main strut.  The nut walked right off.  Swapped all the nuts with locking ones, problem solved.  

Is ready for the snow!


 And yesterday’s productivity

Once I had the frame bolted the way I wanted it, I locked it in the up, and drove it down the hill where my welder, gas set and anvil are located.

And while not done, I am done today.  That sun gets brutal when you’re welding or torching.  ‘Sides, I need to cut the tank apart, and would rather the cool of the morning to do that.  

Then, the fun begins. Muahahaha! (Mad engineers laugh.)

Just kiddin’ .  Actually, I look forward to giving it a try, we have a gravel road and it needs some grading done, and I feel confident this machine could fulfill that role as well.  I plan on adding a section of steel lengthwise on the bottom of the blade to enable that function.  The 12 gauge steel of the tank wouldn’t hold up long without that addition. And if it can grade, then its uses are more than doubled, cuz my yard has serious need of grading since we installed those drain lines in. Yah, it would be easier to hire a ‘dozer to do it, but I’m the tight wad, ‘member.  If it can’t, no worries, I have other options that include use of the horse power this thing has.  Just gotta make ’em. More of that ol’ repair, re-use, repurpose mentality (that our grandparents were so danged good at, at least here in the hills.)

So back at today.  Just returning from bolt place.  Had to purchase a 9/16’sX6″ shouldered bolt for the pivot.  Not something I normally keep in stock.  


Been a busy week

More than a few hours welding, wiring, and programming at work.  Picked up a new sight for the compound, more for competing than hunting, and have spent several hours getting that set up.  Its a single pin slider that I adjust to range, and that meant hours of shooting at specific distances.  I’m not overbowed, but my right shoulder is saying “hey! Give it a break dude!”  And I intend on doing just that tomorrow since I have it off.  (Whoa! A three day weekend. Been awhile)

Tomorrow is ‘work’, but of a fun nature.  I have most of the steel cut for the snowplow.  It will mostly be a matter of assembly, with a little welding involved. Maybe, if I think about it, y’all’ll get pictures of that project.  

I have been following the Vegas shenanigans and things just keep getting weirder.  How does a key witness “commit suicide” by a shotgun blast to the back of the head ?  Seriously, that was written out in the article as if it were all the explanation in the world.  He also killed his handicapped daughter, so the article said, and his wife who was in the house stated she never heard the blasts.  Umhmm, carry on, nuthin to see here.  The smell of this thing is seriously whiffing of cover-up.  The real question IMO is, which agency screwed the pooch?  And was it ISIS that did the shooting, not some 64 YO guy with a shady past, as they (ISIS) continue to claim.  Just saying,,,

Anywhoos, more when I have sumpin to say and show ya.