Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it – no matter if I have said it! – except it agree with your own reason and your own common sense.” – Siddhartha Gautama, a.k.a. the Buddha

Weekend Post-mortem update

and Lesson in Kayaks for those interested.

Here are a couple of pics that I wasn’t able to add on Sunday,

First is the overview, my playing with chines to set hull shape and thinking that I may want to run a single chine this round. Will have to be thicker and wider than the half by half ones you see in the pic, if I do that.

This one is to show how much of that rocker I eliminated with this set of ribs. I’m dropping in a pic of Serena V1.0 for comparison.

NO, that is not exaggerated, she really did have 6″ of rocker

She still has a rocker’ed gunwale line, and my freeboard at cockpit will be less from removing that rocker in her keel, but old girl will track like a missile. That is part of why I am considering going with a single chine. Harder lines will help in edged turning; more authority with the water. I still haven’t settled on that point yet but I have the week to keep playing with sticks and looking.

Big Country asked a funny question in my last post, one about XXXL Kayaks. and one thing I have learned a lot about while building, and studying other kayaks is DISPLACEMENT. Y’all may remember my attempt at surfing a kayak in October of 2020? That boat was too small for me, in all honesty (and why she is no longer in my fleet,) but she was a hella easy roller.

I hover around 200#, that boat was ‘rated for 160 max. But I took it into surf, and took it down class II white water, and learned a lot about WHAT works. I honestly feel that most of the ratings on modern boats is a legal-ise thing of CYA. Even a Liquid Logic Flying Squirrel 95 is only rated 230# max. BUT, that boat displaces 95 gallons of water when fully submerged. Think about that. Can you, with only your body, sink TWO empty 55 gallon drums? Thats close to what the Squirrel displaces. Another way to look at it is that water weighs in at 8.2#/gallon. 95 gallons weighs 779#. For margin of safety against poor judgement figure half that displacement would be considered ‘safe’: 389.5#. The max rating on that boat is 59% of its half displacement rating. I would bob like a cork in the thing. Even the Piro, in the above pic, was a cork when she went under, and she LOVED playing submarine in waves. Even when I went in that hole on WW, She went IN, and my hair stayed dry, even though I was soaked to the neck, and then she came flying up and breached the back side of that wave like a Boomer going for broke, then ‘boofed’ the rest of the wave train: BOOF! Boof! Boof! (yeah, that is a proper WW term and it IS the sound a boat makes when you ‘splash down’ off a wave.

So I guess what I am trying to say is YES, there are XXXL kayaks out there, but you wanna try one on FIRST. Just because it has the displacement does not mean it has the room for YOU. My Prijon Kodiak is an expiation level kayak, has enough volume to carry an entire campsite, a weeks worth of food and several gallons of fresh water if needed, but if you are a little thick in the middle, SHOE HORN NEEDED. I fit, but my ass is so damned narrow, I need padding in boats WITH padding. Most of my weight is up top or in my thighs and calves. (all that danged running and humping in the Corps). In my comment to BC I mentioned seeing a VERY large woman getting into a Lifetime 10′ sit-in kayak. ( these were the rage mid-2020 in these parts and Wally-world couldn’t keep them in stock.). She set the boat at waters edge, but on shore, got in, then Gorilla launched. I swore she was gonna go bloop, and stuck around in case some dumshit needed dragged ashore. NOPE, she pushed and pushed, then when the cockpit hit water, she was floating and she took off paddling across the bay. She may have about buried the freeboard in water, but the cockpit was above the waterline and she wasn’t foundering at all. She easily was pushing 400#. EASILY. This woman FILLED an XXL cockpit and didn’t need a skirt to keep the water out.

That being said, most REC boats, short for recreational, have XL sized cockpits. I know many of the Perceptions are generous in cockpit size, as are most Pelican boats. I have a bias for the perceptions as they tend to be ubiquitous, cheap when bought used, and was my first kayak. My only experience with the pelicans was when D and I took on the Ohio Navy on Lake Cumberland last July of 2020, and he used a Pelican. He was able to keep up with me when I decided my stomach was about to come out with prejudice, (in sprint, but Serena was a race hull made for dynamic water, He’d have been hurting in short order). He handled 9 miles of 3′ seas in an open boat, no skirt, and never foundered, wallowed or capsized; Good boats, with solid plastics making up the hull, not the level 2 PE that is used in the Lifetimes and Sundolphins. That plastic quote applies to both Perception and Pelican.

So, BC, look out for something along the lines of Pelican, or Perception ( I would suggest a sit-ON in your location, as they are more like surfboards and can be wicked fun in waves without having to ‘worry’ about capsizing and being trapped upside down. (they also have a shorter learning curve, unlike my Skin boats,,,) In the case of sit-ons, definitely look at TOTAL displacement and that will lead you to properly sized boat. or at least close enough. Or go full wild water insanity and become one of the COOL ASS M-F’ers that wear skirts. ROFLMAO.

One response

  1. Shell

    Looking good. I’m always amazed at the skeleton work. It’s like art to me.


    November 16, 2021 at 7:48 am

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